...Maybe the Feds aren't asking for customer lists from the cannery

It looks like the Mormon cannery raid was all made up. I posted about it the other day.

Conspiracy: "Why Are Tens of Thousands of Plastic Burial Vaults Stacked in a Field Near Madison, Georgia?"

Wow, I saw this on #PrepperTalk. I'm not sure what to make of this but it cannot be a good thing. Just watch the video at the bottom of this post and use the comment box to tell us your thoughts.

Here is what the video description says:

"Why Are Tens of Thousands of Plastic Burial Vaults Stacked in a Field Near Madison, Georgia?"

If you think all of this is simply conspiracy mongering, consider the fact our government indeed repeatedly plans for widespread bio-terrorist attacks, most notably Operation Dark Winter, staged nearly three months before the attacks of September 11, 2001, and the subsequent anthrax attacks beginning on September 18, 2001. As well, consider the national-level domestic and international TOPOFF exercises, primarily involving biological and chemical attacks.

I have no idea what to make of this one. All of the sites I was able to find that reference this stockpile assume that it has something to do with an upcoming American holocaust and martial law, etc. Again, I have no idea.

Lets try to work trough this one a bit

First of all, what are they?

The product is called a Burial Vault. They are made by PolyGuard Vaults. Their website describes the product as follows: A Burial Vault is an outside receptacle or container, in which the casket and remains are placed, at the time of burial. This helps to maintain the above ground aesthetics of the grave site. Polyguard Burial Vaults are now manufactured using an injection moulding process, and constructed of non-biodegradable, water and chemical resistant polymers.

So, theyre not coffins, but liners in which coffins would be placed before burial.

I did some more research to determine if the government did business with PolyGuard Vaults. Indeed, the U.S. Veterans Administration has been buying Burial Vaults from PolyGuard Vaults for years. Use fedspending.org to look up the contracts. Click the Contracts tab and type in Polyguard.

You can go back to the year 2000. When you use the Level of Detail: Complete (all information) setting, this will show more detail. In the Contract Description fields youll see: THERMOPLASTIC GRAVELINERS. So, it seems to make sense that the VA would be buying these things

Heres a reference with regard to casket burials in a cemetery in Hawaii. This is from the Aloha Chapter of the Military Officers Association of America: Casket burials now require Polyguard Burial Vault at a cost of $220 for family members and no charge for the Retiree, Veteran or Active Duty personnel. The vaults were required to prevent the burial site from settling and collapsing following the burial.

Anyone looking into this situation in Georgia might find the VA contracts and just think, Yep, the VA bought them, nothing to see here. An interesting question would be: How many units did the VA get? I havent been able to determine that. If we knew that, wed be able figure out roughly how many casket burials were happening at VA run cemeteries vs. how many Burial Vaults were ordered. If there was a large difference, well, we would have a pretty good idea of where the extra units went

Where are they?

They are in a field near Madison, Georgia, just off of Lions Club Road and next to (as far as I can tell) a Fowler Flemister Concrete plant. See coordinates: +33° 33′ 57.36″, -83° 29′ 6.26″."

Oath Keepers: From The War in Afghanistan to the Ron Paul Revolution

Below is an excellent post over on the Oath Keepers Blog. It was originally posted in November but I decided it should be re-awakened so........here it is...

Original Link: Oath Keepers » Blog Archive » From The War in Afghanistan to the Ron Paul Revolution

From The War in Afghanistan to the Ron Paul Revolution

Posted on November 22, 2011 by cvrp2012

by Adam G. House, U.S. Army (Retired Combat Veteran)

Adam G. House is a retired U.S. Army veteran. He served with the famed 2/503rd Infantry Battalion, 173rd Airborne Brigade, including a deployment to the infamous Konar Province of Afghanistan from May 07-Aug 08.

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Combat Veterans for Ron Paul

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In May of 2007, the 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team deployed to the Konar Province of Afghanistan. The 2/503rd Infantry Battalion occupied the Pesche River Valley, which is the mountainous tribal region along the Pakistani border where the Russian military was pushed out in the 1980’s. I was an active duty soldier who served there until our deployment ended in August of 2008. While we were there, ABC’s “Nightline” ran a special about one of our platoons, calling the area “the most dangerous place on Earth.” The White House and DOD (Department of Defense) publicly proclaimed that we were at the tip of the spear of the Afghanistan campaign in the “War on Terror.” During this deployment, our Unit dropped more ordnance than any other unit in any other area in Iraq or Afghanistan. Journalist Tim Hetherington of Vanity Fair covered part of our experience which led to the Oscar-nominated documentary, “Restrepo.” Tim would later be killed covering the U.S. intervention into Lybia. Many of the soldiers he covered would come home to find that they had been so affected by combat experiences, they could no longer function as average members of society. Many would go back to Afghanistan again, or to Iraq… again. Some of them had already been to both… again… and again… and again. Some would choose to take their own lives. I came home with a combat-related disability and was honorably discharged via medical retirement. American forces were pulled out of the Korengal Valley in 2010. That whole region of Afghanistan is still in chaos as of this writing.

When I joined the Army, I took an Oath; I took it seriously and I would readily take it again. Serving the Constitution has been one of the greatest privileges of my life. I believe in the Constitution, the ideas which led to its inception, and the principles for which it still reminds us to stand today. The Framers of our Republic knew the dangers of a perpetual Warfare State and advocated free trade with all and entanglements with none. They understood that war breaks down the moral fiber of a nation, which has both cultural and economic consequences. The Founding Fathers of our nation envisioned a population that would keep itself educated and vigilant about the danger of government overreach into any and all parts of individuals’ lives and affairs. If you don’t keep your rights secure, don’t be surprised when you no longer have any. Freedom is fragile, and liberty is losable. Passivity, complacency, disinterest, ignorance, and taking the Blessings of Liberty for granted are our enemies and the conditions which will sink any future for American greatness. Autodidacticism is the order of the day for conscientious citizens.

I’m supporting Ron Paul for the following reasons and many more, as well:

·Dr. Ron Paul is a pro-life obstetrician who has delivered thousands of babies.

·Texas Libertarian Republican Ron Paul is solidly behind the 2nd Amendment & the Rights it ensures.

·Vietnam era Veteran Air Force Flight Surgeon Dr. Ron Paul wants to finally end the wars & bring our troops home.

·Monetary Policy expert Ron Paul wants a full and transparent audit of the Federal Reserve Bank for an accounting of how the secret manipulation of taxpayers’ money was handled around TARP & the other bailouts.

·Limited government champion Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate advocating the elimination of five cabinet level departments of the federal government.

·Fiscal responsibility advocate Ron Paul has promised to balance the federal budget again before his 1st term in office expires.

·Rep. Ron Paul has a roughly thirty year record of being the most consistent vote in Congress regarding fidelity to the Constitution and the Rights, Freedoms, & Liberties it represents.

·Austrian Economics expert Ron Paul has the right capitalist vision for unleashing the free market engine of opportunity and potential for our posterity.

·Civil Liberties advocate Ron Paul would restrain the government’s policing power from asserting itself into non-violent private actions of peaceful people in their own homes.

As a concerned taxpaying American, a combat veteran who still fights for the Constitution, and a deeply convicted believer in individual human Liberty as a Natural (God-given) Right, I’m wholeheartedly supporting Ron Paul for President of the United States in 2012 and would sincerely implore you to do the same. I would appreciate if you would join me in VOTING FOR RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT in 2012!♠

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The Feds are terroroizing preppers again! This is a must read. Big brother is confused again...

It looks like if you try to look more than a week into the future and try to increase your survivability than you are a potential terrorist. Canned must be a serious problem in our big brothers eyes! I remember when big brother was an ok dude but some where something went wrong. Now big brother is simply a moron. I proudly fly my red, whit,e and blue every day but I question the leadership at the helm more and more each day. Read this article that I found on the Oath Keepers website.

Oath Keepers has learned that federal agents recently visited a Later Day Saints (Mormon) Church food storage cannery in Tennessee, demanding customer lists, wanting to know the identity of Americans who are purchasing food storage from the Mormons.

This incident was confirmed, in person, by Oath Keepers Tennessee Chapter President, Rand Cardwell. Here is Rand’s report:

“A fellow veteran contacted me concerning a new and disturbing development. He had been utilizing a Mormon cannery near his home to purchase bulk food supplies. The man that manages the facility related to him that federal agents had visited the facility and demanded a list of individuals that had been purchasing bulk food. The manager informed the agents that the facility kept no such records and that all transactions were conducted on a cash-and-carry basis. The agents pressed for any record of personal checks, credit card transactions, etc., but the manager could provide no such record. The agents appeared to become very agitated and after several minutes of questioning finally left with no information. I contacted the manager and personally confirmed this information.
This event points to a new level of federal government encroachment on the basic freedoms of the American people. Likewise, it points to a confused policy within federal agencies. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), in their “Are You Ready?” guide to “In Depth Citizen Preparedness” recommends that citizens store emergency supplies, including bulk food, in the event of a natural disaster or man-made event (the new politically correct term applied to a terrorist attack). The FEMA guidance is spot-on as it allows individuals and families to be self-sufficient during an emergency situation.
And here in Tennessee, we just learned that Nashville Metro Public Health and the Tennessee Department of Health are conducting “door-to-door assessment of disaster preparedness … using a tool designed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to go door to door and check to see how disaster ready you are. .. in 30 neighborhoods in Davidson County [TN] that have been randomly selected to be the target of a door to door assessment.” I have confirmed that that is a state run effort.
So on the one hand, government agencies both state and federal are urging you to be prepared and even checking up on you to see how prepared you are, and on the other hand, we now have federal agencies that are attempting to gather information on individuals that are following FEMA suggestions. What is the reasoning behind gathering this information? Are American citizens now being “listed” by DHS if they are simply following FEMA guidance and purchasing bulk food and emergency supplies for their families? It appears as so.
This should be a red flag to all Americans. Not unlike the “trip wires” identified in the Oath Keepers list of orders that will not be obeyed, this incident should be considered as further evidence that our federal government is out of control. What business is it of the government if any of us purchase and store bulk food? Answer: It is none of their damn business! Maybe during the next Katrina-type event federal agents will storm your home to take your food stores along with your firearms. We can only theorize as to the motives of the government for this type of “list” being developed, but it goes against the very fabric of what a free people should allow by our government.” – Rand Cardwell.

Additional comments by Stewart Rhodes, Founder of Oath Keepers:

As Rand noted, it was fortunate that this particular cannery does not keep records of its customers. And Rand is correct that this is a very serious red flag. There’s a very good reason why one of the top ten orders that active duty Oath Keepers will refuse to obey is “We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.” As our Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey goes on to state:

“Deprivation of food has long been a weapon of war and oppression, with millions intentionally starved to death by fascist and communist governments in the 20th Century alone.
Accordingly, we will not obey or facilitate orders to confiscate food and other essential supplies from the people, and we will consider all those who issue or carry out such orders to be the enemies of the people.”

If those who carry out such orders to confiscate food are enemies of the people, then that same label also fits anyone in the government compiling lists of Americans who store food. There is no legitimate reason for the Department of Homeland Security to compile such lists. Al Qaida suicide bombers are not known to store powdered milk and buckets of wheat. Nor are they known to store away dehydrated carrots and instant potatoes, or fruit punch mix for the kids. But the Mormons are known to do so, and so are many other Americans who have the common sense and maturity to take personal responsibility for ensuring that their families will have food, come what may.

It is part of Mormon Church religious doctrine to store food for hard times and emergencies, with a recommendation that each family store a year’s worth of basic dry goods along with three months worth of store-bought canned and boxed foods. To facilitate that practice, the Mormon Church runs its own food storage canneries selling powdered milk, wheat, flour, rice and beans, sugar, salt, and various other dry goods either in bulk 50 lb bags or in #10 cans for long term food storage (up to 30 years for some items). These Church canneries also often sell food storage items to non-church members, seeing it as both morally right and prudent to help their neighbors store food, whatever their faith. The cannery in Tennessee that was “visited” by federal agents follows that practice of helping the general public become better prepared.

So why do federal agents want to know who is storing away long-term food storage? We suspect it is for the following reasons:

1.  DHS/FEMA wants to know which Americans have food storage so the federal government can at some future point confiscate that food. Just as with lists of gun owners, compiling such lists is the first step toward future confiscation.
2.  DHS wants to identify those Americans who are “switched on” and squared away enough to actually store food for coming hard times (such as during an economic collapse). That population of awake, aware, and prepared Americans poses a “threat” to whatever DHS and its masters have in store for the American people, and as Joseph Stalin so ably demonstrated, one of the easiest ways to subjugate defiant people is to confiscate their food and starve them into submission.

The federal government already tipped their hand by sending the FBI to military surplus stores (as we reported), gun stores, and pawn shops to encourage those businesses to spy on their customers who buy MRE’s (Meals Ready to Eat), bipods, “night flashlights”, high capacity magazines, rifle bipods, and bulk ammo. Maybe some of you fooled yourselves into thinking there might be some legitimate reason for them to track purchases of such items. But powdered milk and wheat berries? Those are hardly items that could be used in a terrorist attack. It must be the storage of food itself that the feds now find so offensive and so “dangerous.”

And while the door-to-door preparedness assessments in Tennessee appears to be well intended (and we spoke with a friendly state preparedness officer who said it was motivated by the recent natural disasters in Tennessee), Americans are well justified in being concerned about such efforts and how that information may be used in the future, in light of these other well documented and confirmed incidents of federal law enforcement collecting information on those who purchase preparedness items and indicating that the purchases of those items may be “indicators of terrorist activity.”

If you are one of the many Americans who still have on rose-colored glasses, or who still have your head buried in the sand (or stuck somewhere else warm and dark), it is time to pull your head out and face the reality of what the federal government is telling you by the actions of its agents. Those actions show both what they fear and their intent. What they fear are prepared, equipped, and “switched on” Americans, and their intent is to identify who they are, where they are, and then plan on dealing with them when the time comes. And rest assured that time will come. The recent U.S. Senate passage of S. 1867, which authorizes military detention and trial of U.S, citizens under the international laws of war (as if we were conquered Iraq or Afghanistan) is also an expression of their intent, and their contempt for the Bill of Rights.

Clearly, in light of the above, if you purchase food storage, along with any other preparedness items, you should be concerned about those purchases being tracked and your name winding up on some government list. But don’t let that stop you from storing food and other essential supplies, and don’t let this disturbing incident keep you from using your local Mormon cannery to do so. You need to get prepared. But do it while following the advice of James Wesley, Rawles over at www.survivalblog.com, who repeatedly urges his readers to “think OPSEC!” – if at all possible, buy with cash and pick it up in person, just like the customers of this particular cannery did, which left the “agitated” agents empty handed and frustrated. Good. That is as it should be. Don’t make it easy on them. And if you have not yet begun to store food, now is certainly a good time to start. You’re going to need it. Time is short, and you need to be prepared for what is coming.  “Are You Ready?” indeed.  – Stewart Rhodes

Recommended Preparedness and Self-reliance Resources:

http://www.providentliving.org/ (LDS website with links to church guidelines on preparedness and food storage)
www.survivalblog.com (one of the very best prepper websites, with tons of information.  Use the search feature and enjoy)
http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com (EXCELLENT radio show by Oath Keeper Airborne vet Jack Spirko.  Also has great articles, forum, and how-to videos too)
www.operationsleepinggiant.com (an Oath Keepers sister project, just getting off the ground, to wake up veterans and get them focused on individual, family, community, and state: preparedness, security, sound money, and state sovereignty and independence).

www.alt-market.com (how to build strong communities, barter exchanges, food independence, sound money independence, the Montana Safe Haven State project, and excellent economic analysis by Brandon Smith).

www.americanpreppersnetwork.com (another great site with tons of information, a podcast show, articles, videos, and chat)

www.onpointtactical.com (innovative scouting, tracking, wilderness and urban survival school.  Stewart Rhodes has attended several of these classes and personally recommends this school to those who understand that “training trumps gear” as Kevin Reeve says)

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